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04/28/25 12:35 PM #1724    

 

Robert S Young

What a great event!   
Yes, it was an interesting time, I recall all freshmen boys were required to spend time in the pool. The no swim suit policy sort of made sense, I can't imagine trying to keep hundreds of swim suits clean and "unspoiled". I'm sure in today's climate it's pretty shocking as well. 
Thank you and the rest of the women who participated.

 


 

 

 

 


04/28/25 05:30 PM #1725    

 

Michelle Milkovic (Weiner)

Andy...  Lane typically has about a 50/50 gender split for general enrollment which is around 4500 now, but specifically in the "Women in Literature" classes there's usually one lone (and possibly very savvy) young man surrounded by female students. ;)


04/29/25 02:30 PM #1726    

 

Edward Mc Carthy

I recall total enrollment was 6,000 give or take back then in our day.  Can you imagine in todays geo-political climate and political correctness, attempting to force kids to swim naked!!!    And I also recall....that pool water was NOT even close to comfortable as in damn cold.   And the tile floors were disgustingly slimey and everything reeked of chlorine.  Although, all of that was part of what made Lane, uniquely Lane.  And none of us are any worse off for it all.   Ahhhh, the fond memories.  


04/29/25 03:50 PM #1727    

 

Timmy Wong

I remember we had to take swimming class and pass as a graduation requirement.  We had to be able to swim the width of the pool to pass the class.  Before getting into the pool we had to shower and come out to get "inspected" where they rubbed your wet wrist. If there was any dirt or whatever on your wrist you had to go back and shower again.  It was a pain in the arse but required for graduation.  I believe the no swimsuit rule was because they did not want the fibers from the swimsuits clogging up the pool filter.  

OHHHH, the fun times we had at LTHS!!


04/29/25 10:01 PM #1728    

 

Michelle Milkovic (Weiner)

 

For a "deeper dive" into why the naked swimming, you might enjoy this...

 

Baring It All: Why Boys Swam Naked In Chicago High Schools - WBEZ Chicago


04/30/25 02:36 PM #1729    

 

Gregory Groeper

Isn't it funny... an article about Lane 'Women in Literature' - which mentions as an aside at the end that the girls were fascinated by the boys having to swim naked - becomes a thread about Lane Boys Swimming Naked! LOL We certainly were forced to 'measure up' one way or another. I think that's why they kept the water so damned cold.

I guess we're still not 'over it' ;-)


04/30/25 04:42 PM #1730    

 

Grace Tanaka (Danziger)

Hey Michelle, awesome of you and the ladies from the '74 and '75 to speak and lovely of the class to send thank yous. Thank you also for the article/audio about the history and reasons for high school boys swimming naked. Sure was nice to hear Coach John Lewis' voice. Am I misremembering? I thought the 4 years we were there, girls weren't allowed to take swim. What was the actual policy for girls swimming in gym?

04/30/25 06:57 PM #1731    

 

Per C Pearson

Did anyone else get to the Lifesaving level in swimming? If I remember this correctly you had to swim the length of the pool underwater. If you made it, you were supposed to put a large black star with a magic marker on the top of of your swimming cap so the coaches could see who was a capable swimmer.

Lifesaving was a double hit of trauma. You were naked and now you had to touch another guy. Teenage horrors!! One test was, the “Victim” had to float on his back and lightly tread water with his legs spread. The “Rescuer” had to swim and push the victim by his knees to the other side of the pool. I wish they could have just tossed lifesavers and called it good. Thanks to Greg Znajda for bringing his swimming cap to the 40th reunion. He did keep it all those years!


04/30/25 09:24 PM #1732    

 

Michelle Milkovic (Weiner)

Grace, girls could not take swimming during our tenure at Lane as there were no locker facilities... oh... and the naked boy issue.

There was a girls swim team and I'd post the picture but Ria might kill me.  I think they used the girls bathroom across the hall to change. Good times. 

This was not unique to Chicago, we just have the best stories and story-tellers!

 


05/01/25 11:35 AM #1733    

 

Robert Cole

Per,

I remember the lifesaving designation in swim class. I remember...

  • Tread water, then surface dive in the deep end to pick up a rubber dive brick on the bottom of the pool.
  • Swimming a length underwater, carrying the brick.
    Didn't Lane have a pool that was longer than most, too? Like mayb 50 yds instead of 25?
  • Treading water for 30 minutes in the deep end without touching the bottom or the sides. But, Coach Lewis used to go to lunch and come back, leaving his sadistic lifeguards in charge, so it was quite often a lot longer than 30 minutes!
  • Demonstrating that you could do a 4-length IM... 1 length of freestyle, back, fly and breast strokes. Not competitive. But, you'd bettter be at least fast enough to satisfy Coach.
  • Demonstrate the required lifesaving techniques.

It was so rigorous, not only did we get the "black star" but it qualified you for Red Cross Senior Lifesaving certification.

My father had attended Lane in the 40s, and was a lifeguard and (mildly) competitive swimmer for many years and said NO ONE ever had to do as much in High School as Lane did. I guess that's why Lane had a championship swim team for a bazillion years.


05/01/25 11:37 AM #1734    

 

Robert Cole

Swim class wearing "nothing but a swim cap and a smile!"

One winter the heater broke down in the pool and Coach made us swim anyway. Shivering. Lips turning blue.
"Suck it up buttercup."


05/02/25 10:34 AM #1735    

James Anton

Robert, the 30 minutes in the deep end was required to pass the class. Calling the lifeguards sadistic, you are being too nice. I would race through the showers to try and get my 6 lap warm-up done in time for class only to have a lifeguard straight from shop class wipe his hands on my shoulders and tell me to shower again. Yeah, it's the one Lane experience I would like to forget or better yet, wish I never experienced.


05/05/25 07:08 PM #1736    

 

Marion B Bastle

Hey guys, I don't join the chat much as always busy with my business and never want to retire. but have been enjoying the fun banter on the naked swim classes. Yes, my Norman had told me about that experience and I'm glad us girls had no such pool requirements but it wasn't all rosy for us either.. Remember gals??? The girls got the use of the small gym with one bathroom stall and l remember the freshman gym teacher got mad because it took so long for us freshman girls to get ready and get out on the gym floor. You see, there was a long line in the locker room in front of the one bathroom stall which had a door. Each girl stood in line to use it as a changing room so we didn't have to strip in front of strangers. We were all shy (for me especially being an only child) in that small close locker room space. Everyone got a scolding for doing this. To top that off, the required gym outfit we had to buy looked like baby blue toddler bloomers... was a really humiliating fashion look to wear. These ridiculous blue baggy 1pc gym rompers with a elastic waste and baggy drawers had all the boys laughing at us. But maybe the point of that was not to look good in them hmmmm???? Then you had to buy brand new white sneakers and ruin them by writing your last name upside down across the front toes in marker ink so the teacher could identify you in line up. I personally didn't like any part of that that fashion but accepted it until they started saying we had to take showers after gym WITHOUT soap or towels to dry off before allowing you to leave and YOU MUST get your hair wet! Gals had to run thru the halls with wet hair and wet clothes ( think wet t-shirt contestant) in a school predominately male. I decided that was enough and marched down to the counselors office to join ROTC.I remember them calling up that class to see if they would accept me to transfer in and heard him sayin yes, "in" not "out"😄 Rotc said yes they took me and it was great. I could do the pushups and loved the military structure and especially the rifle range and training. Got marksmanship medals and can proudly say I've driven a tank in a skirt! What an experience . How many can say that!!!
? I liked the original uniforms we had the first 3 years too. Here is a funny story: Since Lane had been a guys school, there were only mens uniforms to issue for ROTC. (guess they assumed ALL gals should know how to sew because they gave us a jacket and trousers and said nake the pants into a skirt) So my mama was great at sewing and altered it for me. She asked me what to do as there was not enough top portion to make the skirt and would have to add patchwork pieces of material from a pants leg to make the skirt longer. I told her to just cut it off at the crouch and it became a beautiful fitted mini shirt. Then she altered the seams and tailored the uniform jacket just for me because it was way too wide. The skirt peeked out about 3 inches below the jacket and when it rained I paired it with some shiny patent leather black boots. Got sooo many compliments until the Colonel saw it and said ... " Your skirt is too short. ..pull it down to cover your knees!" I adked him if he rather see my "derriere" or my knees as there was not enough skirt to do both. Everyone laughed. He turned red and I kept the cutest couture uniform. Unfortunately they changed the style for girls senior year and I had to turn it in. I don't know what they did with the skirts but they put the uniform jackets back in rotation for the next male students. I still wonder to this day what freshman boy thought when he was issued my uniform jacket lol😆

05/05/25 09:11 PM #1737    

 

Lisa Yee (Abrams)

It's funny that you mentioned ROTC and those uniforms. I entered sophomore year 2 weeks into the school year because I moved from Elgin to Chicago and they told me there was no more room in the girls gym so I was forced into ROTC. I was not very athletic and couldn't do one single push up and the boys made so much fun of the girls because I recall just having to wear black skirts and my jacket was so long it covered my skirt making it look like I nothing underneath. I only stayed in ROTC that year. But also hated those bloomers we had to wear. 


05/05/25 09:29 PM #1738    

 

Michelle Milkovic (Weiner)

Thanks to Marie Costa McJilton, we have a record documenting our beloved gymsuits. I guess there was plenty of humiliation to go around for all of us!

 


05/07/25 09:49 AM #1739    

 

Robert Cole

I was in Mr. Rafac's drafting class. 2nd floor, right above the Auto Shop. He used to let us climb out the windows and sit on the roof of the Auto Shop, smoking cigarettes and watching the girls gym class outdoors. What a great teacher!

The joys of being a teenaged boy, with male teachers, in an almost all-boys school.

When my son was looking at colleges he looked at Wabash College, an all-male school in Indiana. Said, "why would I want to go there? No girls." I told him, "Where there's a will, there's a way." It was my Lane Tech experience. My dad went to Lane in the 40's and  he said St. Scholastica was a very popular place to hang out.

My mother-in-law went to DePauw back in the day. She said the all-male Wabash College used to charter busses and send them to DePauw on the weekends to bus in women!


05/11/25 08:49 PM #1740    

 

Gregory Groeper

Happy Mother's Day to All 

whom have labored out of Love 

to continue our human race! 


05/12/25 11:19 AM #1741    

 

John Simmers

Marion mentioned earning her marksmanship badge in ROTC.

I still wonder how many don't realize that there was a live-fire (real-ammunition) rifle-range in the catacombs (2 levels below the first-floor) of the school. I don't think the door to the stairway was marked -- you just had to know where it was.

My recollection is that -- each year in ROTC, we did one rotation through the rifle-range. Meaning, while everyone else was upstairs doing the rest of their curriculum, some of us were always downstairs -- firing rifles.

I think the ROTC marksmanship training is done with air-rifles these days, but I don't know whether they still use the same rifle-range.

05/12/25 11:05 PM #1742    

 

Michelle Milkovic (Weiner)

They do still use it John. No live ammo and also for archery.


05/13/25 03:48 PM #1743    

 

Lisa Yee (Abrams)

Thank you very much, Greg.


05/14/25 11:30 PM #1744    

 

Michelle Milkovic (Weiner)

Okay... I know we had a false alarm 2 years ago but this time I saw the airline ticket confirmation. Theresa Dubose (Boelter) is coming to Chicago this summer and we are planning an informal meet up for our division and any other students who had her for art or study hall. She'll be here for 3-1/2 weeks between mid-June and mid-July. Give me a shout if you are interested and if you have a preference on dates . Joan and Marion, I know you are in. Bill Ystrom and probably Art Clafford too.   michellemweiner@gmail.com


05/16/25 01:48 PM #1745    

 

Michelle Milkovic (Weiner)

The artists were Frank Coronado, Bill Ystrom, Sue Ziokowski, Marion Bastle & Rory Fiedler. My favorite is Tom Boudreau blowing the bubble. That would have disqualified the picture from being published had it been a real class photo, (same for Ms. Boelter's shirt)  devil

Not sure how we got so many art majors in one division but I think there were similar situations with music.  Maybe because we were already on the 4th floor for classes they figured they could keep us together and assign all the 4th floor lockers to us. It was a slog, that's for sure.

All art majors are welcome to join us this summer. More deets to follow.


05/18/25 04:27 PM #1746    

 

Gregory Calvimontes

I can volunteer to test specialty cocktails if that helps!

05/19/25 12:39 PM #1747    

 

Gregory Calvimontes

That sounds AWSOME!!!

05/19/25 05:57 PM #1748    

 

Robert Cole

Has anyone considered what the school or CPS has to say about this?
After all, it is representing the Lane Tech Indians and that is not the school mascot anymore. I assume there were concerns about the name that caused them to change it.

Would anyone go to Gordon Tech's 50th reunion and get a Native American sanctification-blessing?

Then, are there religious concerns? "Sanctification-blessing" may imply a religion to some people.

Remember, as much as we may agree or disagree... it is no longer the Lane Tech Indians. 
They may not want the school to continue to be represented this way.
We have to be sensitive to public image. And the legalities of CPS and the school.
There are a LOT of people out there who may have strong opinions on this.

I used to run a business that did science education for elementary school children. We developed a really cool science show based on the Harry Potter movies when they were big. We had to pull it from the public schools here because some parents complained it was "promoting witchcraft." You have to be sensitive to ALL people's opinions.... agree or disagree.  


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